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		<title>By: Mythrilfan</title>
		<link>http://thereticule.com/2009/02/a-rancid-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Mythrilfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s consider this: what if Valve slapping a price on the DLC means that they are not sure whether TF2&#039;s long-term business model was a good idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s consider this: what if Valve slapping a price on the DLC means that they are not sure whether TF2&#8242;s long-term business model was a good idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Tankenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tankenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is simply going to be so awesome, but im not going to get it if its not a regular patch. well, depends, if its pricy , over 10, then not but under 10, sure.</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Wild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, DLC has certainly become a terribly loaded term with various implications now. The immediate reaction really has been &quot;are they charging?&quot; Within minutes of the announcement going up no less. The ambigious nature of the announcement doesn&#039;t help matters. The implications of a &quot;new retail release&quot; coming with the additions is the most glaring part I think - I&#039;m just hoping really that it&#039;s just one of the usual GOTY style releases (think the Company of Heroes &quot;DirectX 10 version&quot; that entered retail - it was basically just a re-release with the 1.7 patch on the disk), rather than a compliation. I think Valve have every right to charge, but I think given the TF2 precendent, it will be hard to win people over to the idea. 
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I think personally think a better business model would be paying more for the game initially in the knowledge that the developer would continue to improve on it.
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Thinking about, I suppose it&#039;s important to consider that with that news post, they&#039;re trying to talk about the DLC across all the platforms. It *will* cost on the Xbox/PS3 after all.Trying to tell one group they&#039;re going to have to pay, and another that they wont isn&#039;t terribly articulate. I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll have clariffication soon I suppose. Lets hope it&#039;s positive
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, DLC has certainly become a terribly loaded term with various implications now. The immediate reaction really has been &#8220;are they charging?&#8221; Within minutes of the announcement going up no less. The ambigious nature of the announcement doesn&#8217;t help matters. The implications of a &#8220;new retail release&#8221; coming with the additions is the most glaring part I think &#8211; I&#8217;m just hoping really that it&#8217;s just one of the usual GOTY style releases (think the Company of Heroes &#8220;DirectX 10 version&#8221; that entered retail &#8211; it was basically just a re-release with the 1.7 patch on the disk), rather than a compliation. I think Valve have every right to charge, but I think given the TF2 precendent, it will be hard to win people over to the idea.<br />
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I think personally think a better business model would be paying more for the game initially in the knowledge that the developer would continue to improve on it.<br />
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Thinking about, I suppose it&#8217;s important to consider that with that news post, they&#8217;re trying to talk about the DLC across all the platforms. It *will* cost on the Xbox/PS3 after all.Trying to tell one group they&#8217;re going to have to pay, and another that they wont isn&#8217;t terribly articulate. I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll have clariffication soon I suppose. Lets hope it&#8217;s positive</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should not be charging for this, they never charged us for any of the TF2 things, why should they change their policy now?

DLC has some fundamental flaws right now, ranging from pricing to distribution methods to &#039;exclusivity&#039; for certain consoles.

Pah! DLC has become twisted beyond all recognition of what it should really be, Valve have done good things with it so far, I don&#039;t want them to go changing now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should not be charging for this, they never charged us for any of the TF2 things, why should they change their policy now?</p>
<p>DLC has some fundamental flaws right now, ranging from pricing to distribution methods to &#8216;exclusivity&#8217; for certain consoles.</p>
<p>Pah! DLC has become twisted beyond all recognition of what it should really be, Valve have done good things with it so far, I don&#8217;t want them to go changing now.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m certainly interested to see about any clarrification over pricing. It seemed to be uncharacteristically ambiguous in saying whether it is or isn&#039;t charged for. I&#039;m hoping they&#039;re just testing to see how people react to any possibility that they will be charging, though I will in all honesty accept paying so long as it&#039;s a reasonable price. At least compared with other recent DLC which will go unmentioned, they have a decent delivery service, and ultimately I don&#039;t mind paying so long as the content is solid.
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But more importantly, if the content is charged for, I forsee a dramatic effect on the community. Organising games with people who may or may not have the DLC will become an absolute fucking nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly interested to see about any clarrification over pricing. It seemed to be uncharacteristically ambiguous in saying whether it is or isn&#8217;t charged for. I&#8217;m hoping they&#8217;re just testing to see how people react to any possibility that they will be charging, though I will in all honesty accept paying so long as it&#8217;s a reasonable price. At least compared with other recent DLC which will go unmentioned, they have a decent delivery service, and ultimately I don&#8217;t mind paying so long as the content is solid.<br />
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But more importantly, if the content is charged for, I forsee a dramatic effect on the community. Organising games with people who may or may not have the DLC will become an absolute fucking nightmare.</p>
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